ACLU files suit on Canyon County Jail
January 10, 2009
http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/628250.html
“The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court, alleges “indecent, cruel and inhumane” conditions that “fall far short of constitutional requirements,” ACLU attorney Stephen Pevar said.”
County officials have added triple bunks and mattresses on floors and inmates are reportedly forced to sleep on the floor and shower in facilities teeming with toxic mold and rust, all due to overcrowding.
“The lawsuit alleges that crowding is “so severe that prisoners are frequently forced to sleep on the floor and shower in facilities teeming with toxic mold and rust,” according to the ACLU news release.”
These conditions have been deemed “inhumane”.
Are the conditions inhumane? Or, should we throw the ball back in their court and determine that if prisoners believe this to be inhumane, then maybe they should stay out of jail?
You decide.

January 10th, 2009 at 9:23 AM
Get rid of any toxic mold or rust. Then leave well alone.
January 10th, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Right on, Cory.
If the prisoners are cramped, so be it. The only thing Canyon County should make sure of is their safety, using watchful jailers, and no one should be involuntarily exposed to toxic stuff like black mold.
Of course, for us it’s hard to say just how bad the jail is. 40 years ago, I spent 48 hrs. in the Fruitland jail or a very weird offense- I didn’t get my license plates changed within 90 days of moving back to Idaho, and got a ticket and went before a very mean judge.
In their old jail, the only way a prisoner could alert a guard was to beat on the ceiling with a broom handle. And the food was delivered as raw ingredients- the prisoners cooked it on a stove inside the central cell area! Both these things were very dangerous, but I don’t see overcrowding as a real danger.
January 10th, 2009 at 3:34 PM
I say make sure they’re safe, and I suppose they should have adequate room to sleep or eat or sit when they’re not sleeping.
And no toxic anything (otherwise they’re not safe). But who determines how much space is adequate?
January 10th, 2009 at 6:13 PM
They’re saying it violates their constitutional rights. I say, they violated their constitutional rights. But, I agree that getting rid of the toxic mold and rust is good. If they’re concerned that their constitutional rights are violated, they probably need to stay out of jail.
January 11th, 2009 at 8:03 AM
Put them to work to scrub and remove their own mold. I have too! So do all of us that live in a home. I t makes no sense to me to have completely capable people (those in jail or prison)not to have them completeing tasks and duties as they work off their sentence.
I’ll never forget the time I got lippy with a cop in Bolivia back in 1977. The story is too long but my smart comment landed me and my missionary companion in jail. Yep, talk about “Midnight Express” like conditions. There were no beds for prisoners. Males in one room, females in another. The restroom was basically a bathtub for the liquids and straw in a corner for the solids. It was very disheartning being in that place.
We were rescued right before we were all being escorted to the two or three rooms where you had to sleep. A blanket and nothing else. I’ll bet there was mold there too. Then again, maybe not! After all it was in Oruro at an altitude of at least 10,000 feet above sea level. Rats, mice, and various other creatures were always present wherever we lived.
Here is another thought. I have lived in homes (as a young man before I was married) where the conditions were less tha Ideal. In fact one home I lived in my dad humerously called “the Stronghold” we renamed our band after my dad called our beloved abode that). Our entire band and 3 other brothers all lived there. It was a the ultimate redneck, unkept, untidy, filthy and disgusting place of residence. We would shampoo the carpet with Kitchen soap about once a month. Sooo, that all said, I believe that prisoners should be responsible for themselves and make their situation better. Not, you and I. Of course, why would we expect them to be responsible? Isn’t that part of the reason they are where they are?
January 11th, 2009 at 8:13 AM
Thats so true Tuchi! I’ve cleaned mold in my old house any number of times.